Michaelj_S_FL
I'm not sure if it's already here or not, but it doesn't seem like it.
Could a feature be added called "Sound Leveling"?
it would work as follows:
1. Set a peak output level and lock that setting in (until changed manually at another date).
2. If an audio track/video track is loaded where the sound is above that level, it automatically lowers the output volume to that preset level.
3. If an audio track/video track is loaded where the sound is below that level, it automatically boosts the output volume to that preset level.
I know there is a rackmount processor that does that, as I've had it in a previous club where we ran multiple sources through the same system and it would auto adjust to a preset level.
If this feature is already included, could you please inform me of how it works, and where to find any adjustment settings for it.
Thank you!
Could a feature be added called "Sound Leveling"?
it would work as follows:
1. Set a peak output level and lock that setting in (until changed manually at another date).
2. If an audio track/video track is loaded where the sound is above that level, it automatically lowers the output volume to that preset level.
3. If an audio track/video track is loaded where the sound is below that level, it automatically boosts the output volume to that preset level.
I know there is a rackmount processor that does that, as I've had it in a previous club where we ran multiple sources through the same system and it would auto adjust to a preset level.
If this feature is already included, could you please inform me of how it works, and where to find any adjustment settings for it.
Thank you!
Posted 2 days ago @ 4:26 pm
DJ VinylTouch
You've already been answered about the brickwall limiter here:
https://virtualdj.com/forums/270490/General_Discussion/Built_in_Compresser%2FLimiter.html
Autogain (which is the ReplayGain boost you are asking about) as well as more info about limiter, can be found here:
https://virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJ8%20Limiter.html
Summary: there is nothing to add, just the workflow to understand.
https://virtualdj.com/forums/270490/General_Discussion/Built_in_Compresser%2FLimiter.html
Autogain (which is the ReplayGain boost you are asking about) as well as more info about limiter, can be found here:
https://virtualdj.com/wiki/VDJ8%20Limiter.html
Summary: there is nothing to add, just the workflow to understand.
Posted 2 days ago @ 5:49 pm
Michaelj_S_FL
Thanks!!
one thing... I do not see " - gainSliderIncludesAutogain: yes" control anywhere... Is that a MAC command in lieu of a Windows based Command?
I'm in build V2026 b9644 for Windows.
Nevermind... Found it a few screens over.
one thing... I do not see " - gainSliderIncludesAutogain: yes" control anywhere... Is that a MAC command in lieu of a Windows based Command?
I'm in build V2026 b9644 for Windows.
Nevermind... Found it a few screens over.
Posted 2 days ago @ 6:45 pm
DJ VinylTouch
So no, those are settings - you open the options and set them how you like.
See more info here:
https://virtualdj.com/manuals/virtualdj/settings.html
You can use vdjscript to toggle settings, but this is a thing you probably want to permanently set.
See more info here:
https://virtualdj.com/manuals/virtualdj/settings.html
You can use vdjscript to toggle settings, but this is a thing you probably want to permanently set.
Posted 2 days ago @ 7:18 pm
PhantomDeejay
Actually what you ask goes beyond the scope of a compressor, and even maybe beyond the scope of a dynamics processor (with the traditional meaning of the term)
It definitely goes beyond the scope of a DJ-ing application.
What you ask has a meaning mostly as a piece of hardware and/or software for broadcasting radio stations.
You want an AGC functionality combined with a compressor (single or multi band) that targets a specific SPL level.
I know a few pieces of hardware that do that and cost about the same or ever more than an average SUV.
I also know a few VST effects (like Thimeo Stereo Tool as an example) that can do almost the same.
However, such functionality is almost pointless for a DJ.
If the venue you are about to play has very strict rules about SPL levels, then the venue itself should/would have the correct gear to make this happen, and that gear would be nowhere near the DJ booth where a "random" DJ would be able to tamper with it.
If the venue does not have strict rules and it's just you that you want to "enforce" this on yourself, then "free will" is still a thing! :P You can always have a SPL meter with you and adjust your volume accordingly.
Finally:
Messing with dynamics is not a good thing in general.
Compressed and over-compressed sound DO produce "sound fatigue" on the listening audience.
Radio stations mentioned above can mess with dynamics because their sound is not expected to be played in big professional sound-systems in full loudness for several hours in a row.
However DJs are expected to do just that! Play already overcompressed tracks for several hours in full loudness on professional high capacity sound systems! Adding more/extra compression is a quick way to ruin the sound and the overall experience.
After all it's not a coincidence that on all big gigs (from DJ parties to live bands), you never see compression used in the FOH sound system... You may see a ridiculous big sound system "just in case" but never a smaller one that "can become louder with a little compression"
PS: Equipment like this, usually adds extra latency. This latency can range from a few ms, to a few full seconds! That's where the main difference in price is drawn for these things.
A radio station can use a "slower" (that adds far more latency) but "cheaper" processor than a club with some weird strict rules about SPL levels that needs a "fast" but usually far more expensive solution.
Dedicated software usually sits somewhere in between. The more and the better job you ask it to do, the more latency it adds.
If you're a radio station that's using this on the output of the broadcasted signal, it doesn't really matter a lot and you can get perfectly away with 500ms latency.
But if you're a DJ and you're listening your "master" output with 500ms delay while you perform, then that's a major problem!
It definitely goes beyond the scope of a DJ-ing application.
What you ask has a meaning mostly as a piece of hardware and/or software for broadcasting radio stations.
You want an AGC functionality combined with a compressor (single or multi band) that targets a specific SPL level.
I know a few pieces of hardware that do that and cost about the same or ever more than an average SUV.
I also know a few VST effects (like Thimeo Stereo Tool as an example) that can do almost the same.
However, such functionality is almost pointless for a DJ.
If the venue you are about to play has very strict rules about SPL levels, then the venue itself should/would have the correct gear to make this happen, and that gear would be nowhere near the DJ booth where a "random" DJ would be able to tamper with it.
If the venue does not have strict rules and it's just you that you want to "enforce" this on yourself, then "free will" is still a thing! :P You can always have a SPL meter with you and adjust your volume accordingly.
Finally:
Messing with dynamics is not a good thing in general.
Compressed and over-compressed sound DO produce "sound fatigue" on the listening audience.
Radio stations mentioned above can mess with dynamics because their sound is not expected to be played in big professional sound-systems in full loudness for several hours in a row.
However DJs are expected to do just that! Play already overcompressed tracks for several hours in full loudness on professional high capacity sound systems! Adding more/extra compression is a quick way to ruin the sound and the overall experience.
After all it's not a coincidence that on all big gigs (from DJ parties to live bands), you never see compression used in the FOH sound system... You may see a ridiculous big sound system "just in case" but never a smaller one that "can become louder with a little compression"
PS: Equipment like this, usually adds extra latency. This latency can range from a few ms, to a few full seconds! That's where the main difference in price is drawn for these things.
A radio station can use a "slower" (that adds far more latency) but "cheaper" processor than a club with some weird strict rules about SPL levels that needs a "fast" but usually far more expensive solution.
Dedicated software usually sits somewhere in between. The more and the better job you ask it to do, the more latency it adds.
If you're a radio station that's using this on the output of the broadcasted signal, it doesn't really matter a lot and you can get perfectly away with 500ms latency.
But if you're a DJ and you're listening your "master" output with 500ms delay while you perform, then that's a major problem!
Posted 2 days ago @ 1:11 am