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Topic: audio sample when no pro license - Page: 3
Personally, I like the audio sample and think it should not only play the VirtualDJ drop but also give a 30 second shutdown warning using the ED-209 voice and count exactly like ED-208 - badly.
30, 29, 15, 12, 3, 2, 27....



But seriously - so many have been cheating their way around or ignoring the EULA (and anyone want to take a guess at how loud they're screaming now?) and we've seen this and other measures discussed before to get people to be honest and now some are okay with it and a bunch are so very not okay.

Is it an ideal solution? well, ideally they'd buy a license, not break the EULA, and eventually buy a license and never have to worry about it again.

but we don't live in an ideal world do we?
 
jayskinner70 wrote :
Hopefully VDJ will reconsider and find a better solution for longtime licensed users.
Yes we did, and for now old PLUS licenses will not have the audio drop even if no controller plugged.
 
That's a respectable move - the Home Plus licence is now legacy, so new persons can't buy it (stops that bleeding), but is still respected fully for people who bought it.
 
"Yes we did, and for now old PLUS licenses will not have the audio drop even if no controller plugged""
Spero sia e rimanga così ! Al momento funziona regolarmente.
Ho recentemente speso 99 euro pre la licenza home con controller non base.
Non è corretto cambiare le condizioni dopo un contratto siglato.
Le soluzioni possono essere:
- togliere il sample dalle licenze home da 99 euro (ora pare essere così)
- un forte sconto per il passaggio alla licenza INFINITY permanente (non mensile), dal momento che quella acquistata è permanente,
- un ricorso al Garante per pratica commerciale scorretta
 
I will say, I'm more than a little pissed with the new update, which I should've declined. And it's all because of this audio stamp, after all, my only experience so far with it is being woken up out of my sleep by 'VIRTUAL DJ' being yelled into my ears. 10 minutes ago.

I use VDJ for purely personal use, and have for years. And I've had nothing but praises to sing for so long, and while I've been using it for free, I would've been more than happy to pay, but I had no need for all the extra stuff, as I use it as a music player I get to mess around with (I like to reverse, chop and screw, mix tracks, stems, renaming files, and all the other elementary stuff, but most importantly all my custom hotkeys). Spotify is irritating at best half the time, and this is the music player I've gotten used to and enjoyed.

Now I somewhat understand the reasoning behind implementing it, but I'm not in the industry at all, so a good bit of it goes over my head. However, I understand, you gotta make that bag, but my issue comes in when the options for purchase are all subscriptions, or $300!

I just wanna listen to my music man, the same way I have been for years. I don't need all the extra shit, and it feels bad when you make a major change to the main point of the software, the audio. I don't wanna be sleeping and listening to a rain track, and some slowed down music, and hear some bass boosted 'VIRTUAL DJ!!!' randomly jarring me out of my sleep. I also don't know if I wanna hear that if I'm in my feelings listening to some sad music.

I don't know, this is probably half-coherent and rambly, but I was woken up 15 minutes after that shit. So I know I'm unreasonably angry right now. Part of me just wants to fork out the 300 and be done with it, but I don't want to, because that's expensive as crap. Literally, all I'm paying for is the removal of an audio stamp. For 300 dollars. I hope that doesn't sound insane to just me?
 
Alright, I ended up rolling back due to system images. Will not be updating. But do please consider things like this in the future. Going back to sleep.
 
Tbh (not trying to be mean but) VirtualDJ was never meant to be a personal jukebox (there are other applications for that), it was mean to be professional DJ software.

For any DJ that actually works, subscription is pretty standard across the board, and being able to buy it at a 1 time fee is quickly disappearing (Atomix is one of the only companies still doing it). $300 is pretty much covered by 1 gig in most cases, and for what you get for it (at this time, lifetime updates and latest features), that is one of the sweetest deals still around for the industry.
 
I bought Virtual DJ Broadcaster way back in 2015, for a one time fee and then used it with SecondLife VIrtual Clubs for my Djing Gigs.

Paying for a subscription is not really possible for me as on Fixed Income, so kinda sad version 2026 had to do make this major change and all, but guess it was bound to happen sometime.

Will find another program for my SecondLife sets, and go from there its looking like
 
bikemanI72017 wrote :
Will find another program


Why do you need another program? Is it really that terrible to have the name of the software announced during your streams? The VDJ logo has been displayed on the video output in the same way for a long time.
 
It is rather ironic that several individuals in this discussion, who were previously quite dismissive or even rude toward newcomers for asking elementary questions, have now revealed themselves not to be pro users. Furthermore, they are openly complaining about having to purchase the pro version. The irony is almost too perfect.
 
Bonjour, je suis "pro Infinity" depuis 2006 après avoir utilisé dès ses débuts l'ancêtre de Virtual Dj Atomix MP3 et j'ai toujours défendu ce logiciel malgré les critiques incessantes de nombreux dj aveuglés par la mode du matériel Pioneer Dj et scotchés à Rekordbox ou Serato.
L'innovation c'est l'ADN de Virtual Dj: la vidéo et ses effets, le Karaoké, la Sandbox, le streaming, le cloud, l'appli de contrôle à distance (la liste est longue) il y a toujours une fonction pour t'aider dans ta prestation.
La licence "Pro Infinity", je n'arrête pas de la défendre sur ma chaîne YouTube (Mixtrotter).
Franchement on investit parfois plusieurs milliers d'euros dans un contrôleur et on ne peut pas mettre 300€ dans un logiciel aussi génial et utile!
Une licence lite pour les petits contrôleurs comme il existait au temps de ma Hercules DJ console MK2 de mes débuts: pourquoi pas puisque certains n'ont pas besoin de toutes les fonctions? Virtual Dj a toujours tenu compte des petits utilisateurs (ce qui pour moi est tout à son honneur). C'est je pense ce qui lui a apporté cette fausse réputation de "truc d'amateurs" et maintenant ces problèmes de licences.
Chez RekordBox on s'en moque des utilisateurs: les anciens contrôleurs de Pioneer (avant la DDJ 800) n'ont plus le droit d'évoluer vers Rekorbox 7 (pas de hardware unlock). Qui a hurlé chez nos grand Dj quand Alpha-Thêta l'a annoncé?
Donc:
- Merci Virtual Dj d'être là, innovant comme jamais avec ton lecteur de paroles et l'IA.
- Merci de tenir toujours compte de l'avis de tes utilisateurs, notamment pour ce problème de sample audio auquel tu t'efforces de réfléchir.
- Merci d'être toujours aussi réactif, avec déjà 4 mises à jours depuis la version "early" de Virtual Dj 2026.
Aucun autre logiciel Dj n'a ces qualités.
Franchement pour une écoute à la maison votre jingle audio est anecdotique. La gêne est minime (j'ai testé pour une de mes vidéos YouTube).
Enfin je pense que pour ceux qui écoutent des playlists en automix il y a mieux: spotify, deezer... Car ici on parle d'un logiciel de Dj donc fait pour mixer. Non?
 
So I know you posted in French but there are many good things you said.

So I don't think they are not trying to consider their amateur userbase. The EULA, for as long as I have been here (2020), has always specified that Pro licences are for Pro use, and everything else is not. There were occurences of OEM licences, etc that became legacy, and Home Plus is legacy as well - they all are respected on the versions of VirtualDJ that supported them still and can still be used given the OS supports them.

If you are using the software for any type of personal gain, that is professional use, and you should have a pro licence.

That would include

  • Anything where you are offering services using it
    That includes radio station broadcasts and DJing any event
  • Making mixes promote yourself on a platform to promote yourself (because then you are advertising yourself as potentially being professional)


It doesn't matter if in either of those cases you don't make actual money or not...it really matters if you are presenting yourself as a professional in the field.

As you said, for persons listening at home using automix, that's nice but not what the software was really made for - it was really made for Pro usage/provision of services (and that's actually the same for all of the DJ software offerings out there) and so it's really the wrong tool for the job (as you said, there are players (open source, free and paid) that were made for casual playback.

These guys work hard, and probably have little if no OEM deals with Hardware makers (which is what gives them the ability to makr the software as flexibile as it is with hardware in the first place), so it's understandable if they see someone breaking the EULA, then they would respond.
They also didn't really walk back on any licence terms. Home Plus is still useable with older versions (and one was still not supposed to use those to play mixes professionally by the EULA). Free users can still use the software to evaluate it.
 
I have to say that I'm more than a bit disappointed. I use VDJ for volunteer DJing at my local public radio station. Today when I was playing my show, after updating this morning, I had at least three of the "VirtualDJ" announcements.

Very embarrassing.

Even more so was that there was no warning/announcement that this was going to happen. At least there could have been a warning popup screen saying what would happen. This makes me not want to install any update in the future.

Regarding the "professional" subscription price, I'm a volunteer, for a publicly funded radio station, which has just recently had all of its previously approved government funding yanked. So we self fund ourselves. The free version of VDJ has been a godsend in this effort to play tracks with Tidal (my go to service) and the thought of having to pay another monthly subscription is a hard sell for something that I collect zero income for.

If anything, this should be where a home/non-profit license would be a nice consideration. After all, if I have to upgrade to the Pro subscription price, then this is a non-starter and I'm going to have to find another solution.

Which would be too bad.
 
Greg Schroeder wrote :
the thought of having to pay another monthly subscription is a hard sell for something that I collect zero income for.


Outright buy and never have to worry about it ever again. Cancel that Tidal sub for a while and save that money to buy the pro version. Its pretty simple honestly.
 
Even tho its "not for profit" there's still some type of overhead that has to be paid (lights, heat, paper, pens). Some stuff still has to be bought and it can just be wrote off at the end of the year.
 
its probably far easier to have an all or nothing policy, or have a stripped down lite version .
 
When Stephane first mentioned the audio watermark, I had an idea this would happen - all the people with no license saying it's unfair, embarrassing, a rip off, ruining things etc.

Nobody's forcing you to use VDJ.

A Traktor license costs something. A Serato license costs something. Rekordbox is limited unless you pay.

Ditto with Algoriddim Djay Pro. Even the underdogs like DEX from PCDJ.

Much of the aforemention software comes bundled with controllers - which you also have to buy. Wouldn't you consider it fair to pay for something that you use on a regular basis? How is that a rip off?

Free DJ sofware does exist. It's just not VirtualDJ any more.

[edit] it seems Serato do have Serato DJ Lite
 
I don't actually think people realise all the work that goes on behind the scenes at Atomix. Maintaining the software and development of new features, complex mappings for controllers, agreements with streaming partners, managing a beta program etc. How does this and the staff get paid for?

Add to that a very responsive dev team who fix bugs in days rather than years (looking at you Denon)

Nothing stays the same forever and as @groovindj says the time has come to remove the free tier. It's a commercial decision which you either accept or move on.

Same as Netflix or Spotify whacking up their prices. No different.
 
But they didn't remove the free tier. Anyone who was depending on it to perform a service (even posting a mix on a platform), paid or not, was violating the EULA, it's just that now they actually know they were.

If you are performing a service that someone is depending on, and you could buy a laptop to run VirtualDJ, you can buy the Pro Infinity licence. If a non-profit/other entity wants to run a radio station/event, they need to know there are costs associated for you providing the service (they wouldn't argue with radio licencing entities or radio.co on fees for licencing because they know this is a thing). It is this enforcement that makes DJing as a service a profession and not a hobby.
 
Spotify has adverts unless you pay. Same with YouTube. Same with Twitch. A lot of the TV & movie streaming sites have ads unless you pay (or they're just not free).

There were ads once in VDJ I remember.

ISTM if you're embarrassed to hear the name of your DJ software whilst using it, maybe it wasn't the best choice for you. I'm quite happy to tell people what I use, and use it proudly.
 
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